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Well L&P confirms it , at least 2 months+ just for the morning update , playable day 13 is 10 updates so it would be about 20 months + per playable day if there are no setbacks or problems , enjoy these pleasant moments because if this continues in this way, playable day 13 will be the last update of AWAM.
Unfortunately that is on the horizon isn't it!
 
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Bane71 maybe you are just not understanding that many of us do not agree with your analogy. It may be good in your mind but, to some of us out here in the boonies, it is wrong. And don't go trying to explain why I do not want to understand it. Your analogy was an attempt but, IMO a poor one. There are way too many food trucks roaming about that are single person operations until they start running more trucks. Those entrepreneurs sure seem to listen to their patrons. Oh, and they get the food out fast. Just sayin'!
In this case, I don't understand this logic of critics!

I'll note that I'm not telling anyone to leave, but I absolutely don't understand why come back here if you don't like and persistently demand that L&P follow your instructions on how to conduct its business? After all, there are others who are supposedly better!

Look at KillJoys, he didn't like it and he stopped being a patron, he expresses criticism, but I didn't see him accusing or insulting L&P. Here, in my opinion, is an example to follow.

In any case, my friend, I don't want this discussion to continue. Have a nice day.
 

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I'll try to help you understand:

  • The "restaurateur" opened his restaurant 4 years ago
  • In those 4 years the food has been getting out of the kitchen visibly slower as time goes by
  • Every week he tells the clients he will get help
  • He even threw an event in the restaurant saying that if the event got full, he would hire help
  • Even though the event was packed full, he failed on his promises and didn't get any help
  • Food keeps getting slower, plates look pretty but food tastes bland sometimes
  • He constantly contradicts himself, lies about troubles in the kitchen and when he says that the food will be out in 30min, it usually means it's coming out in 50 minutes.
  • Clients tell him to get a waitress and a hostess just to help him out outside the kitchen, so that way he doesn't have to share any secret recipes
  • The menus are full of typos, rushed and sometimes translated wrong
  • Now after 4 years where he said he couldn't find any chef of his level, he suddendly finds a "special chef" and he's building a second kitchen for that same chef. To his clients/investors he gives no details whatsoever of who this chef his, what his specialties are and why does he need a second kitchen. And after 4 years of leading them along he just expects them to trust him, when all his past action tells the clients to do otherwise.
Haha, you obviously never worked in hospitality. First the unhappy customers leave, slowly, and you end up with an empty restaurant.
I'm telling you from my own experience in weddings, christenings and crazy weekends. There was nowhere else to put the dirty dishes.
Ask me, a professional, first or look for another comparison :WeSmart: :ROFLMAO:

We're talking about "captive customers" here, and a good example is what's happening with DAZ and the developers who use it. Many complain about video card problems, frequent crashes but ....
 
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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update and he'll keep us informed, providing answers once he reaches a certain point in the update's development (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he had previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
 
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Hi!

Can anyone send me a save-file where Sophia is with Dylan in the Dressroom at the Beach, please?
I have my Win reinstalled (while Virus) and that was my last stand of the game.

Thanks for help!!!
 

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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update, and he'll keep us informed once he reaches that point (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
email L&P directly he himself said to do it if you have doubts
 

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There are already routes in the game relegated to future DLC content. I wouldn't be shocked if he wants to relegate some other of the minor routes to DLC or create non-canon alternative content. His "special developer" person could work on that stuff as he works on the main game. Although he'd have to give up control, which he doesn't like doing, so in the end I still think animations are the most likely thing to be done. It's so far the only thing that could plausibly check all the boxes I can think of.

Those boxes being.

- "special thing". This is pretty vague and can mean almost anything.
- He got a 2nd PC. Obviously this is to render something.
- He has a "special developer" person of some sort. This can only reasonably be a renderer or animator.
- Something to do with the next update.

Perhaps it could be a writer too, but I don't know what a writer has to do with getting a 2nd PC. Unless a "special" thing and a "special" dev are actually unrelated and he's just trying to mess with us. Which is definitely possible.

So, what special things would warrant a 2nd PC and a special developer?

- He hired an animator / art helper who will create scenes that L&P will render on a 2nd PC.
- He hired a writer. Unrelated to the 2nd PC that L&P will use to render with in addition to his current PC.
- He is doing some kind of side-project/DLC type thing.
All the hypothesis you make seem plausible to me, I'd add that maybe he might have found a writer with animation/modelling skills too that will help on that too (to explain the PC).
The other part that also need some work is the update system, it can require some programming work to deal with connections, checksum and so on to have a smooth updating system (provided that there are not already off-the-shelf solutions). Not something so exciting to justify the waiting but it is nevertheless a part that needs to be done. But for sure nobody needs a rig like that to do this task.

In the case he hired someone (whatever the job is), buying a new PC is another "strange" choice: is she/he working physically together with him? That would mean he found someone in his city or not so far from his place that can easily commute, I don't think that someone will move from another region/country/continent for this kind of project. Minor detail, but let's not to forget this little covid problem with possible new lockdown/restrictions ahead that may prevent displacements.
Or maybe he is assembling the pc to be an exact replica of his and then ship it to her/him?

We know that he is obsessively secretive about his assets, the story and the way he works. Having someone physically working with him might reassure him, even if that does not prevent possible leaks etc.
The other (crazy) possibility is that he will force the new hire to work remotely on his new machine, so that everything stays under his control in terms of security. Needless to say, it won't be the case, because files can be "extracted" anyway and he will be more distracted controlling what's happening than working on his part of the project. And, no matter how good the internet connection is, it would be a nightmare for the other dev working like that.

He can use the second rig for the other dev to render his work remotely, because e.g. the other dev has no enough computing power in his hands. It can be the case, as the fan art thread shows, many good artists with great skills but limited by their available resources. That requires him to trust her/him with the assets, though.

Finally, I don't think that having two PCs for himself will improve anything in his workflow, this has been discussed ad nauseam in this forum.
 
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ohhh boy I can smell how he realize that his last update was so bad that he may be lose the attention over him. That what he said is to keep you attention on promises. He wont release the update on the end of January, he will release it may be at the begging of the summer! Mark my words and the special surprise is that he connected with other dev to involve their characters in his game HAHAHHA
 

nexer

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Building another beast with two 3090s means animation or a dev to help him. Only these two options make sense. Animation without someone to help means even longer delays in updates.
On the other hand he's waiting for answers from a few devs, so he hasn't found one, which reinforces the idea that he found a programmer for animation.
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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Building another beast with two 3090s means animation or a dev to help him. Only these two options make sense. Animation without someone to help means even longer delays in updates.
On the other hand he's waiting for answers from a few devs, so he hasn't found one, which reinforces the idea that he found a programmer for animation.
yes, his animations suck, but he shouldn't delay the development process for that, in the meantime I think he can continue developing the game and insert the animations when he has, if ever, ready.
here instead it seems that everything is slowing down because of this.
and in any case it was not a problem if he had been transparent and sincere from the beginning: guys I'm implementing the animations, have patience.
instead it seems that he wanted to keep everything hidden only to disguise the long wait.
My opinion
 

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All the unimportant details aside, can anyone make any sense out of this hot mess?

In his first statement, L&P said that we'll be seeing results IN the next update and he'll keep us informed, providing answers once he reaches a certain point in the current update's development (whatever that's supposed to mean). This also apparently involves multiple other developers as it appears to be a task made for "them", yet this statement makes it sound like he himself is working on "something special".

In his second statement, everything previously mentioned is pretty much over board and we're basically left with a simple "more information AFTER the next update", which already is contradicting with his first statement, and it looks like we're not even getting a taste for this "special" something in the upcoming release, unlike what he had previously said.

In his third statement, things become even more confusing. It apparently impacts the upcoming release, but we'll only be getting information about it AFTER the update??? So from my point of view, all we currently have is L&P's word that it's gonna be well worth it, and a bunch of contradictions that make absolutely no sense if you ask me.
I read it like this: He wants to publish the next update towards the end of January 2022. I didn't expect an earlier appointment anyway. If he announces this date then he will deliver around this time - unless aliens land on earth then it will be delayed by a week. He decided too quickly to announce a new feature for the game and is now not sure whether he can integrate it into this update. He asks for patience. It says nothing more - not even about the aliens.
 
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hzjujk

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I mean, what you say makes sense, but it's not what L&P said. He is working on it, and the results apparently can already be seen on this current update, according to him. There's not a single word of him saying that he's unsure about anything. I'm failing to see the logic behind his statements, and all the contradictions certainly don't help. It's a back and forth, and all within what - 24 hours?
I understand you, I also see the contradictions, but I wanted to calm the discussion down a bit with my words. Hence the strong opinion / speculation on the planned release date.
 
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palmtrees89

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I understand you, I also see the contradictions, but I wanted to calm the discussion down a bit with my words. Hence the strong opinion / speculation on the planned release date.
I appreciate it, and I'm not trying to cause a drama. I'm just genuinely confused. :LOL:
 
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Haha, you obviously never worked in hospitality. First the unhappy customers leave, slowly, and you end up with an empty restaurant.
I'm telling you from my own experience in weddings, christenings and crazy weekends. There was nowhere else to put the dirty dishes.
Ask me, a professional, first or look for another comparison :WeSmart: :ROFLMAO:

We're talking about "captive customers" here, and a good example is what's happening with DAZ and the developers who use it. Many complain about video card problems, frequent crashes but ....
Thankfully not.
Regarding the comparison, I wasn't the one making it, Bane was. I was just trying to help out within that absurd comparison that he made, which you would know if you actually read the topic and not just look for things to throw shade.
 
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