people can withdraw money from that long ago? I thought there would be a cap or something...

this particular individual had commissioned me several times over the course of a month and then charged back ALL of it. The time limit I think is like 90 days or something to do that? It's been an age since this happened thankfully.

Some people never learn If you buy art you have to pay for it ...always

People should have thought ahead wether they wanted to commission or not. This was a bit too late and hard work was done.

Yeah I have a certain amount each month for commissions and that´s that

People like that need to just leave. You don't fuck with an artist's livelihood like that.

In a fair and just world, there would be laws against that sort of behavior. Sadly, no such world exists.

Always remember the freelancer's mantra:

"FUCK YOU! PAY ME!"

It's depressing how many people forget artists do this for a living. It's basically having your job take back a paycheck because the boss' bonus wasn't big enough.

I'm surprised you drew the flake as a fox and not a weasel.

I drew him as a possum actually.

Oh, they DO have dark ears. Huh!

Holy fook....how many times, has that happened, Madame fox?

This is based off of a specific person and a single incident. We've filed off the names and things to keep from revealing who, but there actually was a person who reversed charges on over $600 worth of commissions, went on a vacation, and claimed his bank did it then had the gall to come back and ask for another commission. Later, he admitted "his parents made him do it" (another lie) and made out that he wanted to just be friends with Fox again, but when she told him they can be friends without him commissioning her he showed his true colors and exploded at her for "ruining his day" (I'm leaving his profanity out). Because, you know, having rent money suddenly vanish from your bank account doesn't ruin someone's day too, right? I think he later went on a tirade on one of his journals about how Fox was the bad guy because she wouldn't give him 'closure'. And I suppose by 'closure' he meant 'art slave' or something. Lovely person. I'm pretty certain he was bipolar and really needed to be put on some hardcore meds considering his almost daily tantrums towards people who tried to get him to see reason in situations where he was being greedy and narcissistic.

Nine hells..so I take it, my lady. You were warned of this individual...I think, I know the name (I'll keep my muzzle shut but, I believe the name was leaked out during a stream) Madame Fox, had to do emergency commissions. I was living in Cali at the time, if I remember the year.

I didn't have the full details. I thought this was multiples...not one single entity....yeesh

Problem is one or two warnings aren't necessarily enough to make you not do business with someone, if you aren't big enough yet to be able to apply a stricter filter.

I have no idea when this happened, or if she was or was not warned about the individual, but unless it was someone she personally knows and trusts warning her, why would she turn down 600 in commissions?

I don't know fox other than her art, and I certainly don't know the one who did this to her, but without being fully aware of the circumstances, and only knowing fox's side of the story, I have to say that even if she was warned a bit about the person he is still the one fully at fault. Just a shame banks don't have any protections in place that can be used by artists to prevent scummy behavior like that in the first place.

No-one warned me about them, It was more that they did this out of the blue. I had a wonderful rapport with them, they always paid on time usually. There were a few times things slipped and I'd let them pay later. But when the chargebacks came and KEPT COMING I stopped taking commissions from them and threatened to tell every artist beware I could get ahold of if they didn't pay me back. They did and then tried to get work from me again... I found out they were pretendng to be someone else and they got really angry at me for ruining thier day by not giving them closure and doing commissions for them again.

Amazing how people can just change on a dime like that. Makes you wonder if they were always that way or if something in their life changed to cause it.

Closure...after stealing from you? ....cause that makes sense.

I am sorry you suffered so, Madame. Though, I know my apologies will do scant help, to remove the sting of the past.
Does seem a bit...sudden to flip the switch and commit such an act...I wonder if you were no their only victim

why some people need t have their kneecaps busted.

Boy! Some people. That's why I prefer to pay up front for any commission I request. Of course, I'd never do this even if I didn't pay up front. I don't believe in stealing from people, especially people, like you, who depend on their art as a way to earn an income.

I've had that happen to me for physical LED items I've mailed to them and acknowledged they receiving it. Then did a charge back, and somehow won. I think they real solution to this problem is... DON'T USE PAYPAL. I am dropping it. And will either use my own e-commerce from my bank that accepts credit cards directly. Or try Square.

Theres also people who always commission, find some tiny flaw to complain about, and charge back.

I cannot name names...But several were really infamous for this; going through a series of new online names to hide their identity, hitting new artists, and doing everything they could to continue the scamming until they were finally hunted down and exposed.

-Badger-

Wow... one thing for sure... I could never do such a thing to anyone like... that!

That’s just horrible!

Pro tip on how to get Art commissions: PAY THE ARTIST!

I'm sorry to hear you (or anyone else!!) has to deal with people like this.

omg i think i would lose my collective shit and a half..
i'm so sorry you had to deal with this absolute moose knuckle. that is really nuts.
it's a shame paypal can't implement some kind of feature to prevent this sort of thing from happening so often. there are way more horror stories about this type of thing than there should be :c

People would dare to this to the Overlord?

These are some of the WORST kind of people!

Wow, cool! When I view this comic under black light, the bad person's username and RL name come out all over the background like wall paper and an image of their ID card...

_{Wait, I wasn't supposed to mention that, was I?}


The only thing worse than a loser user is a self-righteous user. I'm truly sorry that happened to you.

What was the payment method?

I'd like to know so I can avoid it.